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    Published on: February 4, 2021 by Janice Lawandi; Updated on: February 14, 2024 150 Comments

    How to Make Thick Cream Cheese Frosting for Cakes and Piping with Less Sugar

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    Most cream cheese frosting can end up too soft and runny, unstable, or too sweet from an excess of powdered sugar added to thicken it enough to use on decorated layer cakes. It's a problem that most bakers face. Fear not: with a change in technique and an easy recipe, you can make thick cream cheese frosting that you can use to decorate cakes and with a lot less sugar!

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    Cream cheese frosting is notoriously unstable. The water in the cheese tends to separate out, creating a runny, loose frosting. Most people choose to add more powdered sugar to remedy the situation, but I've found a new way of mixing the ingredients that results in a thick cream cheese frosting made with half the powdered sugar than the classic recipe. Another option is to make this thick cream cheese frosting without powdered sugar, sweetened with white chocolate instead of icing sugar.

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    • Why Cream Cheese Frosting is Runny or Too Sweet
    • How to make thick cream cheese frosting that is stable and can be piped
    • What recipes to make with it
    • Cream Cheese Frosting FAQs
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    Why Cream Cheese Frosting is Runny or Too Sweet

    Typical recipes for cream cheese frosting have you cream the butter and the cream cheese together, then add A TON of icing sugar. Cream cheese frosting recipes call for so much powdered sugar because without the extra powdered sugar, cream cheese frosting tends to be runny, unstable, weepy, and soupy.

    Apple cupcakes with thick cream cheese frosting piped on top.

    Why It's So Unstable

    A block of cream cheese contains a lot more water than the same weight of butter. Remember that most grocery store butters have roughly 80 % fat in them, while cream cheese is half of that, around 40 % fat. What remains in both cases is mostly water, so cream cheese contains more moisture than butter.

    When the cream cheese is creamed with the butter, and then the icing sugar is added in, the icing sugar draws out that moisture from the butter and the cheese. Butter has very little moisture to draw out, so you can make a thick, pipeable frosting with butter and icing sugar without much worry. But since cream cheese contributes double the moisture, when the icing sugar draws out that moisture, you end up with a soupy, runny, unstable cream cheese frosting.

    A cake stand with a carrot cake.

    This is the main reason why most cream cheese frosting recipes recommend a huge amount of icing sugar. Without all the extra powdered sugar, the frosting is too soft to work with. The frosting doesn't hold its shape when piped and it's quite unstable. Bakers tend to overload the frosting with powdered sugar to stiffen the frosting. This leads to a cloyingly sweet cream cheese frosting that doesn't taste very good.

    Cranberry cardamom cake with cream cheese frosting and sugared cranberries

    How to make thick cream cheese frosting that is stable and can be piped

    Without resorting to adding an excess amount of icing sugar, to make a thicker cream cheese frosting that can be used to frost a cake or decorate cupcakes, the solution is simple: change the order you mix your ingredients in:

    • Step 1: Cream the butter with the icing sugar first, thereby coating all the little sugar molecules with fat
    • Step 2: Once the butter and icing sugar are well mixed, THEN you add in the cream cheese. The sugar is coated with fat, therefore making it more difficult to draw out the moisture from the cream cheese. The cream cheese remains intact, and no water leeches out.

    By following this mixing order, you can make a frosting with significantly less sugar. In fact, you end up with a frosting that tastes a lot like cheesecake, tangy and not overly sweet!

    Ingredients to make thick cream cheese frosting with less sugar.

    Cream cheese in the tub versus blocks of cream cheese

    The cream cheese product you buy has an impact on this recipe. Cream cheese sold in the tub is formulated to be spreadable and that softer consistency comes the water content: cream cheese sold in the tub has slightly less fat and more water than cream cheese sold in blocks, which is much firmer.

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    That extra water in the tub product means your cream cheese frosting will be more prone to breaking down or becoming too soft. If you can, buy the cream cheese sold in blocks and make sure to buy full-fat cream cheese, preferably Philadelphia brand.

    Chocolate cake with cream cheese frosting and topped with berries.

    What recipes to make with it

    Once you have mastered this thick cream cheese frosting recipe, you will see that it is so thick that you can use it to make layer cakes and for decorating. I've used this recipe for:

    • eggless carrot cake
    • berry chocolate cake
    • cranberry layer cake
    • spiced apple cupcakes
    • pumpkin whoopie pies
    • chocolate cake with cream cheese frosting

    You know this recipe is good because this cream cheese frosting works great in layer cakes without the risk of sliding layers and weeping frosting!

    Chocolate layer cake with cream cheese frosting and berries.

    There are so many ways to get creative with this frosting. You can alo use this frosting to fill whoopie pies and you can also colour it with gel food colouring for decorating. Try browning the butter, then cooling it to room temperature to give the frosting a nutty flavour.

    Cream Cheese Frosting FAQs

    What type of cream cheese do you use to make frosting?

    The brand and type of cream cheese makes a HUGE difference in frosting recipes. You should use Philadelphia, full-fat cream cheese, sold in blocks of 250 grams (roughly, though the weight of the block depends on the country).
    Any other brand may lead to a different taste and mouthfeel as some have more gums or different stabilizers which has an impact on taste and texture.
    Also, in some countries, cream cheese is sold exclusively in tubs. Cream cheese sold in tubs may have more water in it. I recommend straining the cream cheese by placing it in a strainer lined with a few layers of paper towel or cheese cloth to try and drain the excess water before proceeding with the recipe.

    How do I make cream cheese frosting thicker?

    Change the order you mix your ingredients in and your frosting will be thicker and you won't need as much sugar! Mix the butter with part of the icing sugar first, then add the cream cheese and the rest of the sugar (or as much to achieve the right flavour). You'll see that you won't need so much if you mix the ingredients in this order!

    Can I make it without powdered sugar?

    I do not suggest substituting any other type of sugar in this frosting recipe. The smooth texture of cream cheese frosting has as much to do with the butter and cream cheese as it does the icing sugar. You can't replace it here with anything else. This is not a baking substitution that I would recommend. If you would like a cream cheese frosting without icing sugar, try this white chocolate cream cheese frosting!

    What does it go with?

    Cream cheese frosting is very versatile and tastes great with most types of cake. I love to frost chocolate cake with cream cheese frosting, and of course it goes well with spice cake and carrot cakes. It's great on cupcakes too, as you can see in the photo!

    Does cream cheese frosting have to be refrigerated?

    Yes, you should definitely store frosted cakes in the fridge. If you aren't a fan of cold cake, slice it cold and let the slice come to room temperature for about 30 minutes before enjoying.

    Can you leave it at room temperature or on the counter overnight?

    Yes, you can, but don't leave it out for too long. I wouldn't suggest storing it on the counter for more than a day. Cream cheese frosting contains butter and cream cheese, and both of these ingredients spoil and go bad at room temperature, so opt to refrigerate as much as possible for long term storage.

    Cranberry topped layer cake with cream cheese frosting.

    If you tried this recipe for thick cream cheese frosting (or any other recipe on my website), please leave a ⭐ star rating and let me know how it went in the comments below. I love hearing from you!

    📖 Recipe

    Cranberry cardamom cake with cream cheese frosting and sugared cranberries

    Thick Cream Cheese Frosting for Layer Cakes and Piping

    AuthorAuthor : Janice Lawandi
    This is the best cream cheese frosting for layer cakes and piping with less icing sugar than most!
    4.97 from 61 votes
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    Prep Time 20 minutes mins
    Total Time 20 minutes mins
    Course Dessert
    Cuisine American
    Servings 60 tablespoons
    Calories 63 kcal

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    • 5-quart KitchenAid Artisan mixer
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    Ingredients
     
     

    • 173 grams unsalted butter room temperature
    • 218 grams icing sugar sifted after measuring
    • 500 grams Philadelphia cream cheese (full fat, regular) cold
    • 5 mL pure vanilla extract or vanilla bean paste (both are optional)

    Instructions
     

    • Cream together the butter and the icing sugar first until they are fluffy and creamy. When these two ingredients are well mixed, then you can add the cream cheese, all at once. Beat for several minutes until you have a thick, smooth frosting.
    • Feel free to add vanilla extract or vanilla bean paste at this point to add a little flavour!

    Notes

    • Please use Philadelphia brand cream cheese because it's the best! The taste and texture of the frosting won't be as good with other brands.
    • Where I live, a full-size block of cream cheese is equivalent to 250 grams (0.55 pounds).
    • This is enough to frost a three-layer 6-inch cake.
    • Calories calculated based on one tablespoon.

    Nutrition

    Calories: 63kcalCarbohydrates: 4gProtein: 1gFat: 5gSaturated Fat: 3gTrans Fat: 1gCholesterol: 15mgSodium: 27mgPotassium: 12mgSugar: 4gVitamin A: 184IUCalcium: 9mgIron: 1mg
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    Comments

    1. Anastasiia says

      July 23, 2024 at 12:20 am

      Thank you so much for recipe, could you please tell if cream cheese needs to be room temperature as well as butter, or it should be chilled? Thank you in advance

      Reply
      • Janice Lawandi says

        July 29, 2024 at 2:28 pm

        Hi, I use cold cream cheese and softened butter. I find this works best, especially in the summer months when our kitchens tend to be warmer (or if we've had the oven on). The only time I've had this frosting break down was when I used softened cream cheese that was perhaps too warm because my kitchen was hot and the cream cheese had sat in my kitchen for an hour or more before I used it. Hope that helps!

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    2. Janet Calderhead says

      July 17, 2024 at 5:02 pm

      The numerous times I’ve wasted this topping through it being too thin and runny, then following your method by adding cream cheese last worked perfectly. So Thankyou ❤️

      Reply
    3. Ricky says

      July 04, 2024 at 11:31 am

      I need an alternative for the block Philadelphia block. Where I live they don’t sell it in block only in tub. Can I use marcapone?

      Reply
      • Janice Lawandi says

        July 11, 2024 at 7:08 pm

        I have never tried this recipe with mascarpone and my concern is that mascarpone doesn't have the stabilizers that cream cheese has... I would probably do a test batch on a small amount because mascarpone is quite pricey, just to see how it behaves, before making a big batch. Sorry I don't have a better answer at the moment. If you try it out, please let me know how it goes!

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        • Chantal says

          October 08, 2024 at 9:16 pm

          Hi Janice I will make this frosting for my nephew’s bday this weekend and I will need to double it. I saw someone asking the question but I don’t see any answer? Your recipe card says 2 blocks of cream
          Cheese for the regular recipe and 1000gr for the double batch but you also wrote next to it 2 blocks. I am guessing that’s a mistake ?

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          • Janice Lawandi says

            October 09, 2024 at 12:47 pm

            Hi Chantal,
            I'm so glad you pointed that out! The recipe scaling feature doesn't update the little notes I add next to each ingredient and it is confusing, as you pointed out! I hadn't thought of this! I'm going to correct the recipe card and move the ingredient note that mentions "2 block of cream cheese" down to the Notes section that is below the recipe card to eliminate the confusion. Thanks for bringing it up!

            Reply
    4. Kathy says

      June 14, 2024 at 12:57 pm

      The ratios are perfect! I added a pinch of salt and a little lemon juice, oh my!! Goes perfectly with my carrot cake!

      Reply
    5. Justine says

      June 08, 2024 at 10:14 am

      Hi ! Looking forward to try this awesomd recipe next week for a red velvet cake. I was wondering if I can make it 1-2 days ahead and store in the fridge.. before assembling and decorating the cake? Or will it be to cold/thick or hard to work with afterwards? Thanks!

      Reply
    6. Jackie says

      June 05, 2024 at 9:29 am

      Would very much like to make this recipe for 2 layer 9 inch carrot cake for birthday. Doubling the recipe, how many blocks of cream cheese will I need?

      Reply
    7. Donna de St. Aromain says

      May 13, 2024 at 9:54 pm

      Wow! Wow! Wow! Your recipe is fantastic! I’ve tried so many different recipes for CCF and they’ve always been thin and would slide down the cake- disasters! But this consistency was perfect. I loved how you gave the science behind the technique and this is what made me give your recipe a go. Thanks Janice, that one annoying hurdle I could never seem to get over has been smashed today, and I’m only 68. Thank you!

      Reply
    8. Laurie says

      April 26, 2024 at 7:12 am

      Hi,
      Thank you very much for sharing your recipe. Do you think it’s possible to add gel food colouring to it or it will change the texture ?

      Reply
    9. Ani says

      April 23, 2024 at 1:11 am

      Hi janice. I’d like to gv this revipe a go. But i want to make it tangy , so is it possible to add some fresh lemon juice? If yes, quantity pls. Tq!

      Reply
    10. Nancy says

      March 08, 2024 at 10:59 pm

      UM. Wow! I have made 3 or 4 different CCF recipes and the others tasted okay but the consistency was all wrong. THIS IS LITERALY THE PERFECT RECIPE. Thank you so much for sharing this with everyone!!

      *FYI-When I made this, I was using it on a 2-layer, 9-inch cake. Unfortunately, I didn't double the recipe I only increased it by half. It was enough to cover the cake, but I didn't have any extra for writing or decorating. But next time I will know and it will work great b/c this recipe is nice and thick.

      Reply
      • Janice Lawandi says

        March 09, 2024 at 9:01 am

        I'm so glad you enjoyed this cream cheese frosting! And thank you for taking the time to share your notes about how much you needed for a two layer 9-inch cake. That will be so helpful to others who land on this recipe!

        Reply
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