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    Published on: February 4, 2021 by Janice Lawandi; Updated on: February 14, 2024 150 Comments

    How to Make Thick Cream Cheese Frosting for Cakes and Piping with Less Sugar

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    Most cream cheese frosting can end up too soft and runny, unstable, or too sweet from an excess of powdered sugar added to thicken it enough to use on decorated layer cakes. It's a problem that most bakers face. Fear not: with a change in technique and an easy recipe, you can make thick cream cheese frosting that you can use to decorate cakes and with a lot less sugar!

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    Cream cheese frosting is notoriously unstable. The water in the cheese tends to separate out, creating a runny, loose frosting. Most people choose to add more powdered sugar to remedy the situation, but I've found a new way of mixing the ingredients that results in a thick cream cheese frosting made with half the powdered sugar than the classic recipe. Another option is to make this thick cream cheese frosting without powdered sugar, sweetened with white chocolate instead of icing sugar.

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    • Why Cream Cheese Frosting is Runny or Too Sweet
    • How to make thick cream cheese frosting that is stable and can be piped
    • What recipes to make with it
    • Cream Cheese Frosting FAQs
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    Why Cream Cheese Frosting is Runny or Too Sweet

    Typical recipes for cream cheese frosting have you cream the butter and the cream cheese together, then add A TON of icing sugar. Cream cheese frosting recipes call for so much powdered sugar because without the extra powdered sugar, cream cheese frosting tends to be runny, unstable, weepy, and soupy.

    Apple cupcakes with thick cream cheese frosting piped on top.

    Why It's So Unstable

    A block of cream cheese contains a lot more water than the same weight of butter. Remember that most grocery store butters have roughly 80 % fat in them, while cream cheese is half of that, around 40 % fat. What remains in both cases is mostly water, so cream cheese contains more moisture than butter.

    When the cream cheese is creamed with the butter, and then the icing sugar is added in, the icing sugar draws out that moisture from the butter and the cheese. Butter has very little moisture to draw out, so you can make a thick, pipeable frosting with butter and icing sugar without much worry. But since cream cheese contributes double the moisture, when the icing sugar draws out that moisture, you end up with a soupy, runny, unstable cream cheese frosting.

    A cake stand with a carrot cake.

    This is the main reason why most cream cheese frosting recipes recommend a huge amount of icing sugar. Without all the extra powdered sugar, the frosting is too soft to work with. The frosting doesn't hold its shape when piped and it's quite unstable. Bakers tend to overload the frosting with powdered sugar to stiffen the frosting. This leads to a cloyingly sweet cream cheese frosting that doesn't taste very good.

    Cranberry cardamom cake with cream cheese frosting and sugared cranberries

    How to make thick cream cheese frosting that is stable and can be piped

    Without resorting to adding an excess amount of icing sugar, to make a thicker cream cheese frosting that can be used to frost a cake or decorate cupcakes, the solution is simple: change the order you mix your ingredients in:

    • Step 1: Cream the butter with the icing sugar first, thereby coating all the little sugar molecules with fat
    • Step 2: Once the butter and icing sugar are well mixed, THEN you add in the cream cheese. The sugar is coated with fat, therefore making it more difficult to draw out the moisture from the cream cheese. The cream cheese remains intact, and no water leeches out.

    By following this mixing order, you can make a frosting with significantly less sugar. In fact, you end up with a frosting that tastes a lot like cheesecake, tangy and not overly sweet!

    Ingredients to make thick cream cheese frosting with less sugar.

    Cream cheese in the tub versus blocks of cream cheese

    The cream cheese product you buy has an impact on this recipe. Cream cheese sold in the tub is formulated to be spreadable and that softer consistency comes the water content: cream cheese sold in the tub has slightly less fat and more water than cream cheese sold in blocks, which is much firmer.

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    That extra water in the tub product means your cream cheese frosting will be more prone to breaking down or becoming too soft. If you can, buy the cream cheese sold in blocks and make sure to buy full-fat cream cheese, preferably Philadelphia brand.

    Chocolate cake with cream cheese frosting and topped with berries.

    What recipes to make with it

    Once you have mastered this thick cream cheese frosting recipe, you will see that it is so thick that you can use it to make layer cakes and for decorating. I've used this recipe for:

    • eggless carrot cake
    • berry chocolate cake
    • cranberry layer cake
    • spiced apple cupcakes
    • pumpkin whoopie pies
    • chocolate cake with cream cheese frosting

    You know this recipe is good because this cream cheese frosting works great in layer cakes without the risk of sliding layers and weeping frosting!

    Chocolate layer cake with cream cheese frosting and berries.

    There are so many ways to get creative with this frosting. You can alo use this frosting to fill whoopie pies and you can also colour it with gel food colouring for decorating. Try browning the butter, then cooling it to room temperature to give the frosting a nutty flavour.

    Cream Cheese Frosting FAQs

    What type of cream cheese do you use to make frosting?

    The brand and type of cream cheese makes a HUGE difference in frosting recipes. You should use Philadelphia, full-fat cream cheese, sold in blocks of 250 grams (roughly, though the weight of the block depends on the country).
    Any other brand may lead to a different taste and mouthfeel as some have more gums or different stabilizers which has an impact on taste and texture.
    Also, in some countries, cream cheese is sold exclusively in tubs. Cream cheese sold in tubs may have more water in it. I recommend straining the cream cheese by placing it in a strainer lined with a few layers of paper towel or cheese cloth to try and drain the excess water before proceeding with the recipe.

    How do I make cream cheese frosting thicker?

    Change the order you mix your ingredients in and your frosting will be thicker and you won't need as much sugar! Mix the butter with part of the icing sugar first, then add the cream cheese and the rest of the sugar (or as much to achieve the right flavour). You'll see that you won't need so much if you mix the ingredients in this order!

    Can I make it without powdered sugar?

    I do not suggest substituting any other type of sugar in this frosting recipe. The smooth texture of cream cheese frosting has as much to do with the butter and cream cheese as it does the icing sugar. You can't replace it here with anything else. This is not a baking substitution that I would recommend. If you would like a cream cheese frosting without icing sugar, try this white chocolate cream cheese frosting!

    What does it go with?

    Cream cheese frosting is very versatile and tastes great with most types of cake. I love to frost chocolate cake with cream cheese frosting, and of course it goes well with spice cake and carrot cakes. It's great on cupcakes too, as you can see in the photo!

    Does cream cheese frosting have to be refrigerated?

    Yes, you should definitely store frosted cakes in the fridge. If you aren't a fan of cold cake, slice it cold and let the slice come to room temperature for about 30 minutes before enjoying.

    Can you leave it at room temperature or on the counter overnight?

    Yes, you can, but don't leave it out for too long. I wouldn't suggest storing it on the counter for more than a day. Cream cheese frosting contains butter and cream cheese, and both of these ingredients spoil and go bad at room temperature, so opt to refrigerate as much as possible for long term storage.

    Cranberry topped layer cake with cream cheese frosting.

    If you tried this recipe for thick cream cheese frosting (or any other recipe on my website), please leave a ⭐ star rating and let me know how it went in the comments below. I love hearing from you!

    📖 Recipe

    Cranberry cardamom cake with cream cheese frosting and sugared cranberries

    Thick Cream Cheese Frosting for Layer Cakes and Piping

    AuthorAuthor : Janice Lawandi
    This is the best cream cheese frosting for layer cakes and piping with less icing sugar than most!
    4.97 from 61 votes
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    Prep Time 20 minutes mins
    Total Time 20 minutes mins
    Course Dessert
    Cuisine American
    Servings 60 tablespoons
    Calories 63 kcal

    Equipment

    • 5-quart KitchenAid Artisan mixer
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    Ingredients
     
     

    • 173 grams unsalted butter room temperature
    • 218 grams icing sugar sifted after measuring
    • 500 grams Philadelphia cream cheese (full fat, regular) cold
    • 5 mL pure vanilla extract or vanilla bean paste (both are optional)

    Instructions
     

    • Cream together the butter and the icing sugar first until they are fluffy and creamy. When these two ingredients are well mixed, then you can add the cream cheese, all at once. Beat for several minutes until you have a thick, smooth frosting.
    • Feel free to add vanilla extract or vanilla bean paste at this point to add a little flavour!

    Notes

    • Please use Philadelphia brand cream cheese because it's the best! The taste and texture of the frosting won't be as good with other brands.
    • Where I live, a full-size block of cream cheese is equivalent to 250 grams (0.55 pounds).
    • This is enough to frost a three-layer 6-inch cake.
    • Calories calculated based on one tablespoon.

    Nutrition

    Calories: 63kcalCarbohydrates: 4gProtein: 1gFat: 5gSaturated Fat: 3gTrans Fat: 1gCholesterol: 15mgSodium: 27mgPotassium: 12mgSugar: 4gVitamin A: 184IUCalcium: 9mgIron: 1mg
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    Comments

    1. Lori says

      February 18, 2024 at 3:50 pm

      I made this frosting for carrot cake cupcakes I made for a birthday party.
      The frosting was delicious; not so cloyingly sweet like every other recipe I've tried.
      It whipped up beautifully as well; however I put it in the fridge overnight to use it in the morning and rewhipped it. It did not whip up like it did when I first made it.
      It was runny.
      Is it not possible to refrigerate it overnight and use the next day?

      Reply
      • Janice Lawandi says

        February 20, 2024 at 4:20 pm

        Hi Lori,

        I have refrigerated the frosting overnight and rewhipped the next day. Was the frosting very cold when you rewhipped it? I wonder if the temperature was an issue...

        Reply
    2. Mary Doherty says

      February 13, 2024 at 5:58 pm

      I'm making a carrot cake for a friend's special birthday. Can this frosting be colored with gel food coloring? Can I use it for making flowers right on the cake (not using a flower nail)?

      Reply
    3. Rachel says

      February 01, 2024 at 12:21 pm

      Hello,

      Is this possible to make without butter and still be stable and thick ?

      Reply
      • Janice Lawandi says

        February 05, 2024 at 1:20 pm

        Hi Rachel, I'm not sure that will work because the key step in the process is combining the butter and icing sugar first before adding the cream cheese. The butter prevents (or at least slows) the release of water from the cream cheese... I have an another recipe for a cream cheese frosting made with white chocolate and no icing sugar, but that recipe also has butter in it.
        I don't think it's impossible to make cream cheese frosting without butter, but unfortunately, you will need to use A LOT of icing sugar.

        Reply
    4. Gracie says

      November 10, 2023 at 7:15 pm

      Hi, does the cream cheese and the butter have to be at room temperature or does it have to be in the refrigerator before we use?

      Reply
    5. Larissa says

      November 10, 2023 at 1:54 pm

      Hi, I want to make this the night before using it, can I just refrigerate and let it come back to room temp before using, or will I have to beat it again before use?
      Thanks!

      Reply
      • Janice Lawandi says

        November 10, 2023 at 1:57 pm

        Hi Larissa,
        I have done this before and I definitely beat it again before using it because it won't spread nicely straight from the fridge. Hope that helps!

        Reply
        • Larisa says

          November 10, 2023 at 8:49 pm

          Thanks so much!

          Reply
    6. Amy Jo says

      October 27, 2023 at 12:15 am

      I absolutely love this recipe!!! It’s the ONLY frosting recipe I use & will ever use!!!
      I do have one question however… how many cupcakes will this recipe typically frost when piping?

      Reply
    7. Key says

      October 21, 2023 at 2:06 pm

      can you substitute the cream cheese for mascarpone?

      Reply
      • Janice Lawandi says

        October 30, 2023 at 10:07 am

        Hi! Good question! I have not tried mascarpone in this recipe. I've only ever used mascarpone in a whipped cream filling for rolled sponge cakes. I stabilized the filling with a little gelatin. I'm not sure what would happen in this recipe with mascarpone instead of cream cheese though I have a feeling it may work. Maybe if you want to try mascarpone, make a small test batch to see how it goes before scaling up to a full batch. Mascarpone is quite pricey where I live and I would hate for you to spend all that on the ingredients to have it fail... Let me know if you do give it a try! I'd love to know! Thanks!

        Reply
    8. Neesha says

      September 26, 2023 at 5:15 pm

      Finally!!! I am adding this to my recipe book and will be the only cheese cheese frosting I make for stuff, pipable results!

      Reply
    9. Nina says

      September 21, 2023 at 10:41 am

      Hi. Do you use the whisk or paddle attachement for this recipe?

      Reply
      • Janice Lawandi says

        September 21, 2023 at 10:45 am

        Hi! I use the paddle attachment! I recently also tested out making a small batch with an electric hand mixer and it also worked, but it took a lot longer to get the butter and icing sugar nice and creamy before incorporating the creaam cheese. I actually had to use a spatula to speed up the process.
        Hope that helps!

        Reply
    10. AC says

      September 13, 2023 at 6:40 am

      Amazing! If you’re pondering whether to make this, go for it because this is THE BEST recipe I’ve tried for cream cheese frosting

      Reply
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