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    Published on: February 4, 2021 by Janice Lawandi; Updated on: February 14, 2024 150 Comments

    How to Make Thick Cream Cheese Frosting for Cakes and Piping with Less Sugar

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    Most cream cheese frosting can end up too soft and runny, unstable, or too sweet from an excess of powdered sugar added to thicken it enough to use on decorated layer cakes. It's a problem that most bakers face. Fear not: with a change in technique and an easy recipe, you can make thick cream cheese frosting that you can use to decorate cakes and with a lot less sugar!

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    Cream cheese frosting is notoriously unstable. The water in the cheese tends to separate out, creating a runny, loose frosting. Most people choose to add more powdered sugar to remedy the situation, but I've found a new way of mixing the ingredients that results in a thick cream cheese frosting made with half the powdered sugar than the classic recipe. Another option is to make this thick cream cheese frosting without powdered sugar, sweetened with white chocolate instead of icing sugar.

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    • Why Cream Cheese Frosting is Runny or Too Sweet
    • How to make thick cream cheese frosting that is stable and can be piped
    • What recipes to make with it
    • Cream Cheese Frosting FAQs
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    Why Cream Cheese Frosting is Runny or Too Sweet

    Typical recipes for cream cheese frosting have you cream the butter and the cream cheese together, then add A TON of icing sugar. Cream cheese frosting recipes call for so much powdered sugar because without the extra powdered sugar, cream cheese frosting tends to be runny, unstable, weepy, and soupy.

    Apple cupcakes with thick cream cheese frosting piped on top.

    Why It's So Unstable

    A block of cream cheese contains a lot more water than the same weight of butter. Remember that most grocery store butters have roughly 80 % fat in them, while cream cheese is half of that, around 40 % fat. What remains in both cases is mostly water, so cream cheese contains more moisture than butter.

    When the cream cheese is creamed with the butter, and then the icing sugar is added in, the icing sugar draws out that moisture from the butter and the cheese. Butter has very little moisture to draw out, so you can make a thick, pipeable frosting with butter and icing sugar without much worry. But since cream cheese contributes double the moisture, when the icing sugar draws out that moisture, you end up with a soupy, runny, unstable cream cheese frosting.

    A cake stand with a carrot cake.

    This is the main reason why most cream cheese frosting recipes recommend a huge amount of icing sugar. Without all the extra powdered sugar, the frosting is too soft to work with. The frosting doesn't hold its shape when piped and it's quite unstable. Bakers tend to overload the frosting with powdered sugar to stiffen the frosting. This leads to a cloyingly sweet cream cheese frosting that doesn't taste very good.

    Cranberry cardamom cake with cream cheese frosting and sugared cranberries

    How to make thick cream cheese frosting that is stable and can be piped

    Without resorting to adding an excess amount of icing sugar, to make a thicker cream cheese frosting that can be used to frost a cake or decorate cupcakes, the solution is simple: change the order you mix your ingredients in:

    • Step 1: Cream the butter with the icing sugar first, thereby coating all the little sugar molecules with fat
    • Step 2: Once the butter and icing sugar are well mixed, THEN you add in the cream cheese. The sugar is coated with fat, therefore making it more difficult to draw out the moisture from the cream cheese. The cream cheese remains intact, and no water leeches out.

    By following this mixing order, you can make a frosting with significantly less sugar. In fact, you end up with a frosting that tastes a lot like cheesecake, tangy and not overly sweet!

    Ingredients to make thick cream cheese frosting with less sugar.

    Cream cheese in the tub versus blocks of cream cheese

    The cream cheese product you buy has an impact on this recipe. Cream cheese sold in the tub is formulated to be spreadable and that softer consistency comes the water content: cream cheese sold in the tub has slightly less fat and more water than cream cheese sold in blocks, which is much firmer.

    Carrot cake being served on plates.

    That extra water in the tub product means your cream cheese frosting will be more prone to breaking down or becoming too soft. If you can, buy the cream cheese sold in blocks and make sure to buy full-fat cream cheese, preferably Philadelphia brand.

    Chocolate cake with cream cheese frosting and topped with berries.

    What recipes to make with it

    Once you have mastered this thick cream cheese frosting recipe, you will see that it is so thick that you can use it to make layer cakes and for decorating. I've used this recipe for:

    • eggless carrot cake
    • berry chocolate cake
    • cranberry layer cake
    • spiced apple cupcakes
    • pumpkin whoopie pies
    • chocolate cake with cream cheese frosting

    You know this recipe is good because this cream cheese frosting works great in layer cakes without the risk of sliding layers and weeping frosting!

    Chocolate layer cake with cream cheese frosting and berries.

    There are so many ways to get creative with this frosting. You can alo use this frosting to fill whoopie pies and you can also colour it with gel food colouring for decorating. Try browning the butter, then cooling it to room temperature to give the frosting a nutty flavour.

    Cream Cheese Frosting FAQs

    What type of cream cheese do you use to make frosting?

    The brand and type of cream cheese makes a HUGE difference in frosting recipes. You should use Philadelphia, full-fat cream cheese, sold in blocks of 250 grams (roughly, though the weight of the block depends on the country).
    Any other brand may lead to a different taste and mouthfeel as some have more gums or different stabilizers which has an impact on taste and texture.
    Also, in some countries, cream cheese is sold exclusively in tubs. Cream cheese sold in tubs may have more water in it. I recommend straining the cream cheese by placing it in a strainer lined with a few layers of paper towel or cheese cloth to try and drain the excess water before proceeding with the recipe.

    How do I make cream cheese frosting thicker?

    Change the order you mix your ingredients in and your frosting will be thicker and you won't need as much sugar! Mix the butter with part of the icing sugar first, then add the cream cheese and the rest of the sugar (or as much to achieve the right flavour). You'll see that you won't need so much if you mix the ingredients in this order!

    Can I make it without powdered sugar?

    I do not suggest substituting any other type of sugar in this frosting recipe. The smooth texture of cream cheese frosting has as much to do with the butter and cream cheese as it does the icing sugar. You can't replace it here with anything else. This is not a baking substitution that I would recommend. If you would like a cream cheese frosting without icing sugar, try this white chocolate cream cheese frosting!

    What does it go with?

    Cream cheese frosting is very versatile and tastes great with most types of cake. I love to frost chocolate cake with cream cheese frosting, and of course it goes well with spice cake and carrot cakes. It's great on cupcakes too, as you can see in the photo!

    Does cream cheese frosting have to be refrigerated?

    Yes, you should definitely store frosted cakes in the fridge. If you aren't a fan of cold cake, slice it cold and let the slice come to room temperature for about 30 minutes before enjoying.

    Can you leave it at room temperature or on the counter overnight?

    Yes, you can, but don't leave it out for too long. I wouldn't suggest storing it on the counter for more than a day. Cream cheese frosting contains butter and cream cheese, and both of these ingredients spoil and go bad at room temperature, so opt to refrigerate as much as possible for long term storage.

    Cranberry topped layer cake with cream cheese frosting.

    If you tried this recipe for thick cream cheese frosting (or any other recipe on my website), please leave a ⭐ star rating and let me know how it went in the comments below. I love hearing from you!

    📖 Recipe

    Cranberry cardamom cake with cream cheese frosting and sugared cranberries

    Thick Cream Cheese Frosting for Layer Cakes and Piping

    AuthorAuthor : Janice Lawandi
    This is the best cream cheese frosting for layer cakes and piping with less icing sugar than most!
    4.97 from 61 votes
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    Prep Time 20 minutes mins
    Total Time 20 minutes mins
    Course Dessert
    Cuisine American
    Servings 60 tablespoons
    Calories 63 kcal

    Equipment

    • 5-quart KitchenAid Artisan mixer
    • Mini offset
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    Ingredients
     
     

    • 173 grams unsalted butter room temperature
    • 218 grams icing sugar sifted after measuring
    • 500 grams Philadelphia cream cheese (full fat, regular) cold
    • 5 mL pure vanilla extract or vanilla bean paste (both are optional)

    Instructions
     

    • Cream together the butter and the icing sugar first until they are fluffy and creamy. When these two ingredients are well mixed, then you can add the cream cheese, all at once. Beat for several minutes until you have a thick, smooth frosting.
    • Feel free to add vanilla extract or vanilla bean paste at this point to add a little flavour!

    Notes

    • Please use Philadelphia brand cream cheese because it's the best! The taste and texture of the frosting won't be as good with other brands.
    • Where I live, a full-size block of cream cheese is equivalent to 250 grams (0.55 pounds).
    • This is enough to frost a three-layer 6-inch cake.
    • Calories calculated based on one tablespoon.

    Nutrition

    Calories: 63kcalCarbohydrates: 4gProtein: 1gFat: 5gSaturated Fat: 3gTrans Fat: 1gCholesterol: 15mgSodium: 27mgPotassium: 12mgSugar: 4gVitamin A: 184IUCalcium: 9mgIron: 1mg
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    Comments

    1. Melissa Burgess says

      September 11, 2023 at 12:48 am

      I have been looking for a good thick cream cheese frosting and this is amazing. I have been asked to make my son's wedding cake so I am practicing. 3 Layer Chocolate cake with raspberry filling and this frosting! The cake will be 3 tiers so I really needed a frosting that will hold up without being a sugar overload. Thank you!

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    2. Kevin Benway says

      August 24, 2023 at 6:00 pm

      I am so glad I came upon this recipe….it is by far the best one yet. I add a Tbls of milk to thin it out just a hair…but the taste is awesome….so many compliments the first time I used it, not overly sweet like your standard buttercream…this is my go too….thanks

      Reply
    3. Heather says

      July 24, 2023 at 10:05 am

      How much would a single batch make? My carrot cake recipe makes a two layer 9” round cake. I will be including a crumb coat. Thanks!

      Reply
    4. Mario says

      July 14, 2023 at 12:23 am

      Hi!
      I'm excited to try this recipe. Does it crust or remain soft?

      Reply
      • Janice says

        July 18, 2023 at 10:06 am

        Hi! Great question! The frosting when refrigerated becomes quite firm from the butter and cream cheese fats hardening at colder temperatures, but it doesn't form a crust the way some American frosting recipes do as this frosting is made with much less icing sugar. I hope that makes sense!

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    5. Asmaa says

      June 24, 2023 at 1:19 am

      the best cream cheese frosting recipe i've ever tried, was so stable and thick, my red velvet cake stood tall and beautiful and the cheese held its shape between the weight of the layers. thank you so much 🙂

      Reply
    6. Pam D says

      June 01, 2023 at 7:56 pm

      I haven’t tried this, but Iv’ e searched multiple recipes and this one makes sense. My question is how it travels. I have a small wedding cake to transport 3 hours. If the air conditioning is cranked, will it stay firm?

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    7. Allison says

      May 14, 2023 at 11:01 pm

      Made a layer cake with this for Mother’s Day. Creaming the sugar and butter together makes perfect sense, just like reverse creaming! Frosting did not budge all day, and didn’t bulge under the weight of the layers either—love love LOVE this method and recipe! Thank you

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    8. Alex says

      April 29, 2023 at 6:47 pm

      I needed a white frosting I could dye blue for my son's vanilla birthday cake but I don't like buttercream. I love the taste of cream cheese frosting but it's always too runny-- until this recipe! This frosting was a HUGE hit and worked perfectly for decorating/piping the cake. My husband normally hates any kind of frosting but likes this one. Fantastic recipe!

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    9. Linda H says

      April 29, 2023 at 10:37 am

      I have looked for a recipe to make thick cream cheese frosting for years and could never work out why it would end up getting runny when I added sugar - now I know!!

      Something so simple but so effective. My daughter and I literally just made it and it’s perfect! It’s thick, fluffy and doesn’t taste super sweet like it always has with other recipes…. Wow

      We are just waiting for our raspberry muffins to cool so we can pipe on.

      You - are a legend! Thank you

      Perth - Western Australia 💚💛

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    10. Al says

      April 17, 2023 at 12:02 pm

      hello Janice!
      This recipe seems like it's going to be a hit ( about to try it tonight 😉 )
      one quick question though, how long would left over frosting last in the fridge!?

      Reply
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