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    How to Make Thick Cream Cheese Frosting for Cakes and Piping with Less Sugar

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    Most cream cheese frosting can end up too soft and runny, unstable, or too sweet from an excess of powdered sugar added to thicken it enough to use on decorated layer cakes. It's a problem that most bakers face. Fear not: with a change in technique and an easy recipe, you can make thick cream cheese frosting that you can use to decorate cakes and with a lot less sugar!

    Cream cheese frosting is notoriously unstable. The water in the cheese tends to separate out, creating a runny, loose frosting. Most people choose to add more powdered sugar to remedy the situation, but I've found a new way of mixing the ingredients that results in a thick cream cheese frosting made with half the powdered sugar than the classic recipe. Another option is to make this thick cream cheese frosting without powdered sugar, sweetened with white chocolate instead of icing sugar.

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    • Why Cream Cheese Frosting is Runny or Too Sweet
    • How to make thick cream cheese frosting that is stable and can be piped
    • What recipes to make with it
    • Cream Cheese Frosting FAQs
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    Why Cream Cheese Frosting is Runny or Too Sweet

    Typical recipes for cream cheese frosting have you cream the butter and the cream cheese together, then add A TON of icing sugar. Cream cheese frosting recipes call for so much powdered sugar because without the extra powdered sugar, cream cheese frosting tends to be runny, unstable, weepy, and soupy.

    Apple cupcakes with thick cream cheese frosting piped on top.

    Why It's So Unstable

    A block of cream cheese contains a lot more water than the same weight of butter. Remember that most grocery store butters have roughly 80 % fat in them, while cream cheese is half of that, around 40 % fat. What remains in both cases is mostly water, so cream cheese contains more moisture than butter.

    When the cream cheese is creamed with the butter, and then the icing sugar is added in, the icing sugar draws out that moisture from the butter and the cheese. Butter has very little moisture to draw out, so you can make a thick, pipeable frosting with butter and icing sugar without much worry. But since cream cheese contributes double the moisture, when the icing sugar draws out that moisture, you end up with a soupy, runny, unstable cream cheese frosting.

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    This is the main reason why most cream cheese frosting recipes recommend a huge amount of icing sugar. Without all the extra powdered sugar, the frosting is too soft to work with. The frosting doesn't hold its shape when piped and it's quite unstable. Bakers tend to overload the frosting with powdered sugar to stiffen the frosting. This leads to a cloyingly sweet cream cheese frosting that doesn't taste very good.

    Cranberry cardamom cake with cream cheese frosting and sugared cranberries

    How to make thick cream cheese frosting that is stable and can be piped

    Without resorting to adding an excess amount of icing sugar, to make a thicker cream cheese frosting that can be used to frost a cake or decorate cupcakes, the solution is simple: change the order you mix your ingredients in:

    • Step 1: Cream the butter with the icing sugar first, thereby coating all the little sugar molecules with fat
    • Step 2: Once the butter and icing sugar are well mixed, THEN you add in the cream cheese. The sugar is coated with fat, therefore making it more difficult to draw out the moisture from the cream cheese. The cream cheese remains intact, and no water leeches out.

    By following this mixing order, you can make a frosting with significantly less sugar. In fact, you end up with a frosting that tastes a lot like cheesecake, tangy and not overly sweet!

    Ingredients to make thick cream cheese frosting with less sugar.

    Cream cheese in the tub versus blocks of cream cheese

    The cream cheese product you buy has an impact on this recipe. Cream cheese sold in the tub is formulated to be spreadable and that softer consistency comes the water content: cream cheese sold in the tub has slightly less fat and more water than cream cheese sold in blocks, which is much firmer.

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    That extra water in the tub product means your cream cheese frosting will be more prone to breaking down or becoming too soft. If you can, buy the cream cheese sold in blocks and make sure to buy full-fat cream cheese, preferably Philadelphia brand.

    Chocolate cake with cream cheese frosting and topped with berries.

    What recipes to make with it

    Once you have mastered this thick cream cheese frosting recipe, you will see that it is so thick that you can use it to make layer cakes and for decorating. I've used this recipe for:

    • eggless carrot cake
    • berry chocolate cake
    • cranberry layer cake
    • spiced apple cupcakes
    • pumpkin whoopie pies
    • chocolate cake with cream cheese frosting

    You know this recipe is good because this cream cheese frosting works great in layer cakes without the risk of sliding layers and weeping frosting!

    Chocolate layer cake with cream cheese frosting and berries.

    There are so many ways to get creative with this frosting. You can alo use this frosting to fill whoopie pies and you can also colour it with gel food colouring for decorating. Try browning the butter, then cooling it to room temperature to give the frosting a nutty flavour.

    Cream Cheese Frosting FAQs

    What type of cream cheese do you use to make frosting?

    The brand and type of cream cheese makes a HUGE difference in frosting recipes. You should use Philadelphia, full-fat cream cheese, sold in blocks of 250 grams (roughly, though the weight of the block depends on the country).
    Any other brand may lead to a different taste and mouthfeel as some have more gums or different stabilizers which has an impact on taste and texture.
    Also, in some countries, cream cheese is sold exclusively in tubs. Cream cheese sold in tubs may have more water in it. I recommend straining the cream cheese by placing it in a strainer lined with a few layers of paper towel or cheese cloth to try and drain the excess water before proceeding with the recipe.

    How do I make cream cheese frosting thicker?

    Change the order you mix your ingredients in and your frosting will be thicker and you won't need as much sugar! Mix the butter with part of the icing sugar first, then add the cream cheese and the rest of the sugar (or as much to achieve the right flavour). You'll see that you won't need so much if you mix the ingredients in this order!

    Can I make it without powdered sugar?

    I do not suggest substituting any other type of sugar in this frosting recipe. The smooth texture of cream cheese frosting has as much to do with the butter and cream cheese as it does the icing sugar. You can't replace it here with anything else. This is not a baking substitution that I would recommend. If you would like a cream cheese frosting without icing sugar, try this white chocolate cream cheese frosting!

    What does it go with?

    Cream cheese frosting is very versatile and tastes great with most types of cake. I love to frost chocolate cake with cream cheese frosting, and of course it goes well with spice cake and carrot cakes. It's great on cupcakes too, as you can see in the photo!

    Does cream cheese frosting have to be refrigerated?

    Yes, you should definitely store frosted cakes in the fridge. If you aren't a fan of cold cake, slice it cold and let the slice come to room temperature for about 30 minutes before enjoying.

    Can you leave it at room temperature or on the counter overnight?

    Yes, you can, but don't leave it out for too long. I wouldn't suggest storing it on the counter for more than a day. Cream cheese frosting contains butter and cream cheese, and both of these ingredients spoil and go bad at room temperature, so opt to refrigerate as much as possible for long term storage.

    Cranberry topped layer cake with cream cheese frosting.

    If you tried this recipe for thick cream cheese frosting (or any other recipe on my website), please leave a ⭐ star rating and let me know how it went in the comments below. I love hearing from you!

    📖 Recipe

    Cranberry cardamom cake with cream cheese frosting and sugared cranberries

    Thick Cream Cheese Frosting for Layer Cakes and Piping

    AuthorAuthor : Janice Lawandi
    This is the best cream cheese frosting for layer cakes and piping with less icing sugar than most!
    4.96 from 70 votes
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    Prep Time 20 minutes mins
    Total Time 20 minutes mins
    Course Dessert
    Cuisine American
    Servings 60 tablespoons
    Calories 63 kcal

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    • 5-quart KitchenAid Artisan mixer
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    Ingredients
     
     

    • 173 grams unsalted butter room temperature
    • 218 grams icing sugar sifted after measuring
    • 500 grams Philadelphia cream cheese (full fat, regular) cold
    • 5 mL pure vanilla extract or vanilla bean paste (both are optional)

    Instructions
     

    • Cream together the butter and the icing sugar first until they are fluffy and creamy. When these two ingredients are well mixed, then you can add the cream cheese, all at once. Beat for several minutes until you have a thick, smooth frosting.
    • Feel free to add vanilla extract or vanilla bean paste at this point to add a little flavour!

    Notes

    • Please use Philadelphia brand cream cheese because it's the best! The taste and texture of the frosting won't be as good with other brands.
    • Where I live, a full-size block of cream cheese is equivalent to 250 grams (0.55 pounds).
    • This is enough to frost a three-layer 6-inch cake.
    • Calories calculated based on one tablespoon.

    Nutrition

    Calories: 63kcalCarbohydrates: 4gProtein: 1gFat: 5gSaturated Fat: 3gTrans Fat: 1gCholesterol: 15mgSodium: 27mgPotassium: 12mgSugar: 4gVitamin A: 184IUCalcium: 9mgIron: 1mg

    Nutrition information is automatically calculated and should only be used as an approximation.

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    1. Kate says

      April 06, 2023 at 3:48 pm

      I unfortunately read this after making my frosting…I had some consistency issues but have taken your advice and refrigerated it.If is not sufficient to thicken it i will try using instant vanilla pudding as a thickening agent.

      Reply
    2. Shara says

      April 03, 2023 at 1:38 pm

      Help! My frosting is curdled! How do I fix it??

      Reply
      • Janice says

        April 03, 2023 at 2:25 pm

        Hi Shara, I'm sorry this happened. Assuming you followed the quantities and method exactly, it's likely it's a temperature issue. For example, if you were baking cakes before making the frosting, your kitchen might be too warm and that probably caused the frosting to separate and "sweat." I've had it happen especially when the cream cheese got too warm before I made the frosting. I took it out too far in advance, it warmed up, then the frosting I made with it broke down.
        There are different ways to tackle this, depending on what caused the curdling. Sometimes you can refrigerate the frosting for an hour or more to cool it down significantly, then re-whip it. This is probably what I would try first.
        Another option is to heat a portion of it and then whip everything together, but I haven't tried that technique on this recipe... it's more commonly done with meringue-based frostings (like Italian meringue buttercream or swiss meringue buttercream).

        Another thing that may cause a curdled look is if the cream cheese isn't fully incorporated into the mixture and you may see flecks of it. But I wouldn't describe that as curdled, so I'm assuming it's more likely a temperature issue as mentioned above.

        I hope this helps. Let me know how it goes and good luck!

        Reply
        • Shara says

          April 03, 2023 at 3:03 pm

          Thank you for the quick response! I will try chilling it. I don't want to throw 2 packages off cream cheese and almost half a block of butter away!!

          Reply
          • Janice says

            April 03, 2023 at 4:06 pm

            I don't think that will happen! There are always tricks to fix these things! It's a matter of finding the right method to fit your situation!

            Reply
            • Shara says

              April 04, 2023 at 12:19 am

              I just simply could not get it to work for me and I needed the icing right away so I quick whipped up a different recipe. I'm not quite ready to throw on the towel on this one yet though so I'm gonna give it another try sometime.

    3. Rachelle says

      March 26, 2023 at 8:38 pm

      Thank you so much for this tip! The first time I ever tried to make a cream cheese frosting it was runny, and then I recently got a request for carrot cake with cream cheese frosting and was so nervous to try making it again, but I found this post and it was a lifesaver!!! Never using another recipe again. I made it exactly as written and weighed instead of using cup measurements, whipped the heck out of the butter and added the sugar a bit at a time and used cold cream cheese. It was so thick I had to thin it down, so impressed! and it tasted so good, exactly like cheesecake! I rarely comment on recipes but I had to thank you! I'm shocked that a lot of major recipe blogs don't seem to know about this method

      Reply
    4. Danielle says

      March 24, 2023 at 1:31 am

      Hi,
      I’m making a two tiered wedding cake. Will this icing hold up ok being transferred to the event space?

      Reply
      • Janice says

        March 24, 2023 at 10:05 am

        Hi,

        This frosting is quite stable when properly mixed, but I'd definitely chill the frosted cakes thoroughly before moving them, which I'm assuming you would do, especially before stacking them at your wedding venue.
        I hope that helps! Good luck! let me know how it turns out!

        Reply
    5. MCH says

      March 06, 2023 at 1:30 am

      Thank you for this recipe!

      I was hoping for thicker frosting, but I also got less sugar. Yay! I used your recipe on a 4-layer carrot cake and was just able to get more than a crumb coat on top (and in between the layers). I might make an extra quarter or half batch of frosting if I get better at decorating. This recipe used less than half the sugar as my other recipe. The frosting tasted great, wasn't oversweet (which was the problem with my old recipe--and if I needed to thicken, I was supposed to add more sugar and if it was too sweet then add more salt). Can't say enough good things about it.

      I will keep this tip in mind (binding the fat with sugar) when I encounter problems with other recipes. Thank you for sharing.

      Reply
    6. Kay M. says

      February 16, 2023 at 7:22 pm

      Wow! This technique really helped thicken my sloppy cream cheese frosting!! I love that it doesn't need a lot of powdered sugar but it still retains the thick consistency. Will keep using this recipe from now on!!

      Reply
    7. Rose says

      January 31, 2023 at 7:00 pm

      Definitely thicker, less sweet but maybe not sweet enough. Added a little more powdered sugar and texture was still good.
      Unfortunately when I added vanilla extract it gave the Frosting a brownish color that was not pleasant to look at. Perhaps use colorless vanilla or none at all.

      Reply
      • Janice says

        February 01, 2023 at 11:22 am

        Hi Rose,
        Using clear vanilla extract is a great suggestion! I don't mind the creamy beige tint regular vanilla extract gives this frosting, but by all means, use clear if you want to keep the frosting whiter. Some pastry professionals will add the tiniest smidge of a blue or purple gel colour to counteract the yellow tint of buttercream frostings. Really just the tip of a toothpick is all you need. That might also be an option if you are looking for a bright "white" frosting.

        Reply
      • Susan says

        February 24, 2023 at 5:09 am

        Can I use salted butter instead of unsalted butter? In my country unsalted butter is very difficult to find.

        Reply
        • Janice says

          February 24, 2023 at 11:25 am

          Hi Susan,
          I'm not sure where you live, but in Canada, generally, there's about 70–75 mg of sodium per 10 grams of salted butter, whereas some American brands have 90 to 100 grams of sodium per 10 grams. The amount of salt varies, so it's hard for me to say how salty your salted butter will make this frosting.
          But if you can't find unsalted butter, I would give the recipe a try with salted butter or if you can get half-salted butter, that would be even better! Try making a smaller batch, taste and see how it goes. This frosting is not overly sweet, so with the extra salt from your butter, the frosting will still be tasty, but there's also salt in the cream cheese so the salt will be more pronounced.
          I'm sorry I can't give you a more specific answer, but I hope this was still somewhat helpful! Let me know how it tastes if you try the recipe with salted butter!

          Reply
          • Jaime says

            March 18, 2023 at 1:05 pm

            How can I make this into strawberry cream cheese frosting? Thank you!!

            Reply
            • Janice says

              March 24, 2023 at 10:08 am

              Hi Jaime,
              Great question! To flavour the frosting, your best bet might be to grind freeze-dried strawberries and incorporate the powder into the frosting.
              Another option would be to boil down strawberries into a very concentrated syrup, as I did for this raspberry frosting. You really want to boil off as much water as possible if you choose this route to avoid destabilizing the recipe.
              Let me know if either of these methods works for you!

    8. Linda says

      January 06, 2023 at 2:05 pm

      If this helps anybody just fiy, this recipe yields 37 frosted cupcakes 🥰

      Reply
    9. Maggie says

      December 28, 2022 at 4:39 pm

      If cream cheese is cold will it be difficult to cream.

      Reply
      • Janice says

        January 06, 2023 at 12:15 pm

        Hi Maggie, it actually works better with cold cream cheese. If the cream cheese gets too warm, the frosting may separate and become greasy... The only issue I've had with the cream cheese when it's cold is that sometimes, you may detect a couple of flecks of cream cheese that haven't mixed in properly, but usually when I'm frosting my cakes, I can see them and pull them off with the tip of a knife. Really, for the most part, it does mix in well! Try it and let me know how it goes!

        Reply
    10. Kimberly says

      December 26, 2022 at 3:09 pm

      I’ve used this recipe for years, it’s delicious 😋. This is the same as my mom’s. I remember her telling me don’t stray from the order of ingredients! I have tried other recipes and end up with a metallic taste because of the powdered sugar and cornstarch it contains…. Because you have to use so much powdered sugar for the consistency.

      Reply
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